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Fritz Kloepfel
08-17-2006, 02:14 AM
On Friday, while waiting for the Grand-Am race that began at 6:30 pm, I told John Thawley that I was going out to "shoot the sedans."

John cautioned me about refering to them that way, and I took that to heart.

Later, I heard John refer to them as "the Taxi Cabs."

So, now that I know what to call them, I offer a few shots of the Good Ole Boys doing their best to turn right.

1. I have to admit they put the fans in the stands.

http://community.automotivephoto.net/photopost/data/521/medium/Start.jpg

2. Those clouds look like they were washed in Tide!

http://community.automotivephoto.net/photopost/data/521/medium/Tide.jpg

3. A little more ground clearance than a Daytona Prototype.

http://community.automotivephoto.net/photopost/data/521/medium/Goodwrench.jpg

4. Funny looking diffuser....

http://community.automotivephoto.net/photopost/data/521/medium/Fed_Ex.jpg

5 Tony Stewart in his office.

http://community.automotivephoto.net/photopost/data/521/medium/Tony_Stewart.jpg

Kurt Dahlstrom
08-17-2006, 03:08 AM
Fritz,

I must ask you what is up with the color on all these shots and all the noise in the images especially number 5?

The fun thing I find in shooting so much NASCAR is the colors, make them pop.

Hope you don't mind my critique...

Fritz Kloepfel
08-17-2006, 03:41 AM
Kurt,

Can you be more specific with your question about the colors?

#5 is certainly noisy, and I'm not sure I know why. Perhaps someone here can help us figure it out.

The race was interupted by about a zillion yellows, and I got bored waiting for some "green laps." While the cars were driving by under yellow I decided to try shooting into the cars as they drove by. I selected a very high shutter speed as the window only allowed me a small fraction of a second where I could glimpse the driver's helmet. Perhaps the problem lies in the exposure. I was shooting towrd the sun, but into the car. The photos were somewhat underexposed for the subject, but as I shot RAW I was able to adjust the exposure in the RAW converter, but the shots were all very grainy.

Can someone help me better understand how I might have captured this shot without the noise?

It's certainly not anything I would ever try to use in print or sell, but I thought it was an interesting shot into the "workings" of a Nextel Cup car. Perhaps I should have left it out.

I am curious to know if you think the colors are too bright, not bright enough, not the correct hue, or what. To my eye they are saturated, but much as I saw them in the bright sunlight.

Always anxious to learn more and know how others view my work. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Daniel Buck
08-23-2006, 04:26 AM
I have to admit they put the fans in the stands.
to bad they are all drunk and yelling! Dirt-track racing is more fun to watch in-person in my opinion, the fans aren't as drunk and obnoxious, and the action is better :) my opinion anyway :D

Jacob Leveton
08-23-2006, 05:16 AM
Drunk obnoxious fans are the best ones ;)

John Thawley
08-23-2006, 10:11 AM
Drunk obnoxious fans are the best ones ;)

Not is you're surround by them every week... or sitting in traffic. They are a drag.

John Thawley
08-23-2006, 10:14 AM
Kurt,

Can you be more specific with your question about the colors?

#5 is certainly noisy, and I'm not sure I know why. Perhaps someone here can help us figure it out.

The race was interupted by about a zillion yellows, and I got bored waiting for some "green laps." While the cars were driving by under yellow I decided to try shooting into the cars as they drove by. I selected a very high shutter speed as the window only allowed me a small fraction of a second where I could glimpse the driver's helmet. Perhaps the problem lies in the exposure. I was shooting towrd the sun, but into the car. The photos were somewhat underexposed for the subject, but as I shot RAW I was able to adjust the exposure in the RAW converter, but the shots were all very grainy.

Can someone help me better understand how I might have captured this shot without the noise?

It's certainly not anything I would ever try to use in print or sell, but I thought it was an interesting shot into the "workings" of a Nextel Cup car. Perhaps I should have left it out.

I am curious to know if you think the colors are too bright, not bright enough, not the correct hue, or what. To my eye they are saturated, but much as I saw them in the bright sunlight.

Always anxious to learn more and know how others view my work. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

I'm seeing a magenta cast to the coloring. What White Balance setting are you using? And, are you using "auto color" or "auto levels" in Photoshop?

Backlit images will tend to get a grainy or dirty look to them... especially as you try to push up or saturate the colors.

JT

Todd Spoth
08-23-2006, 04:55 PM
im seeing the cast too. the first one almost looks like film. it may be because of the deep dof.

Fritz Kloepfel
08-23-2006, 05:46 PM
I'm seeing a magenta cast to the coloring. What White Balance setting are you using? And, are you using "auto color" or "auto levels" in Photoshop?

Backlit images will tend to get a grainy or dirty look to them... especially as you try to push up or saturate the colors.

JT

I may be "guilty as charged" on the auto color and auto levels.

I think I'll go back to the original RAW files and try them again.

Todd Spoth
08-23-2006, 06:41 PM
I may be "guilty as charged" on the auto color and auto levels.

I think I'll go back to the original RAW files and try them again.

auto color is the devil.