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Eric McClellan
06-13-2009, 10:27 PM
Figured I hadn't done it yet, plus I just needed an excuse to drive it :D

C&C always welcome!

I took your guys' advice from last time and tried to apply the feedback to this set :)

1
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1229-_emm4487.jpg

2
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1227-_emm4530.jpg

3
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1228-_emm4543.jpg

4
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1232-_emm4503.jpg

5
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1231-_emm4497.jpg

6
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1230-_emm4491.jpg

John Hegg
06-14-2009, 12:51 AM
Nice car I don't think I would need an excuse to drive it.
1. I wonder if you moved the car forward a little you would have gotten some more of that nice light on the bottom half of the car? As it is the bottom half is too dark. The front needs some light also. All the detail is lost. Maybe some flash or use a reflector.

2. Bottom half too dark. Was this shot Mid day? The signs on the wall need to go.

3. Pretty dark/flat.. Detail of the body curves lost.

4. Youv'e shot the shadow side of the car. The background is too busy. My eyes focus on the transformer and the pole sticking out of the roof not the car.

5. Nice detail shot. Is the color that dark of a blue?

6. Not enough light.

This is just my opinion. I would be interested in seeing what the other board members have to say.
John

Daniel Buck
06-14-2009, 02:09 AM
details on the car please! :D

John Thawley
06-14-2009, 07:48 AM
I sure like the car. :)

Overall, the photos don't do a lot for me. For the most part, the blue of the car is over processed to the point of being a distraction. The best composition is #4 but the background is not very pleasing. The rest suffer from center-syndrome.

#5, is a dynamite shot. I really like the look of this image... good detail, good composition. It works.

JT

Eric McClellan
06-14-2009, 09:05 AM
Nice car I don't think I would need an excuse to drive it.
1. I wonder if you moved the car forward a little you would have gotten some more of that nice light on the bottom half of the car? As it is the bottom half is too dark. The front needs some light also. All the detail is lost. Maybe some flash or use a reflector.

I was alone during this, but yea, a flash or reflector would have helped for the front.


2. Bottom half too dark. Was this shot Mid day? The signs on the wall need to go.

I was going for a contrasty, desat'd look. This was shot about 30 mins after #1, in the shade of a big building.

3. Pretty dark/flat.. Detail of the body curves lost.

Once again, going for high contrast.

4. Youv'e shot the shadow side of the car. The background is too busy. My eyes focus on the transformer and the pole sticking out of the roof not the car.

That place was really hard to shoot, i got frustrated easily and I'm not all that happy with that photo... it could have worked so much better but I wasn't sure how to get it done. I don't like the shot all that much, but i figured I'd get feedback on it regardless :)

The color name of the paint is "electric blue"... thought that was subtly clever :o

5. Nice detail shot. Is the color that dark of a blue?

Sorta, it's fairly dark in the shade and bright in light... go figure LOL

6. Not enough light.

I tried to lighten the car only with a curves layer but it looked unnatural? :(

This is just my opinion. I would be interested in seeing what the other board members have to say.
John

I think most of what you said was what I was thinking as well, thanks for the feedback :)

details on the car please!

1968 Camaro - 355 SBC - 445hp - 445tq - T56 - 4 wheel disc - 3.73 - Corbeau seats - TTII's - Full set of autometer gauges :)



I sure like the car.

Overall, the photos don't do a lot for me. For the most part, the blue of the car is over processed to the point of being a distraction. The best composition is #4 but the background is not very pleasing. The rest suffer from center-syndrome.

#5, is a dynamite shot. I really like the look of this image... good detail, good composition. It works.

JT

I have a few off centered, I'll see what I can do to get those posted :)


Thanks everyone for the suggestions and feedback... Now, I just need to go back and do it again :)

Eric McClellan
06-14-2009, 10:33 AM
Here's couple more for your consideration. These hopefully don't suffer from "Center-syndrome"

http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1233-_emm4511.jpg

http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1234-_emm4502.jpg

Ansis Kalnins
06-14-2009, 10:56 AM
I'm getting a purple-heavy tint on the first shot in that latest batch. Doesn't quite site with the rest of the set.

Eric McClellan
06-14-2009, 11:07 AM
I'm getting a purple-heavy tint on the first shot in that latest batch. Doesn't quite site with the rest of the set.


Yep, the background was cross-processed a bit... trying something different :)

Keith Long
06-14-2009, 11:35 AM
like i said on the other board, i like 2 the most, but...i think theres to much foreground in the shot. But i dont mind the dark half of the car, although it could benefit from bumping up the shadows alittle to pull some detail in that area.

and I'm not a fan of the power station background. Its a cool area, but it is to distracting IMO.

Eric McClellan
06-14-2009, 12:09 PM
like i said on the other board, i like 2 the most, but...i think theres to much foreground in the shot. But i dont mind the dark half of the car, although it could benefit from bumping up the shadows alittle to pull some detail in that area.

and I'm not a fan of the power station background. Its a cool area, but it is to distracting IMO.


Thanks for the feedback in both forums :)

John Thawley
06-14-2009, 06:41 PM
In your processing there's a tell tail sign... look at your blacks. They're not black... grille, tires etc.

There first shot has lost the white balance completely.

The second shot appears to be overexposed.

I agree with others regarding the background... DREADFUL.

Nice car.

John Thawley
06-14-2009, 06:44 PM
After I typed the comment "nice car"... I realized something.

It's a nice car. Stop looking for a trick. It doesn't need a background... it needs a clean open place that presents the car. The car is the star. This car will stand on it's own. Find something clean and elegant. If you go with an architectural background it should be clean ... steel n' glass... one or two strong geometric lines. See if you can find some sky...

This car needs to stand away and off on its own. IMO.

Eric McClellan
06-14-2009, 10:47 PM
After I typed the comment "nice car"... I realized something.

It's a nice car. Stop looking for a trick. It doesn't need a background... it needs a clean open place that presents the car. The car is the star. This car will stand on it's own. Find something clean and elegant. If you go with an architectural background it should be clean ... steel n' glass... one or two strong geometric lines. See if you can find some sky...

This car needs to stand away and off on its own. IMO.


What do you suggest to get the blacks actually black?

These two are my favorite photos because there is no background and the car really really stands out.

I'll have to find some better places to make as backgrounds.


http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1228-_emm4543.jpg
http://kungphu.com/ar/impermanence/gallery/thumbs/lrg-1227-_emm4530.jpg

Steve Stein
06-15-2009, 01:39 PM
I'd be interested in seeing what the histogram looks like. I think there's lots being clipped and the black level clips in the deep shadows while there's not much in between that and the midtones.

Maybe just a bit more curves tweeking?

Eric McClellan
06-17-2009, 09:36 AM
I'd be interested in seeing what the histogram looks like. I think there's lots being clipped and the black level clips in the deep shadows while there's not much in between that and the midtones.

Maybe just a bit more curves tweeking?


I'll see what I can do with some more curves :)